I took the basic course with Deb & John. These two know what they are doing. I learned so much from both and I am very thankful that I got such awesome rider coaches. Both of them boosted your confidence. I never heard a negative word come from either one of my coaches and that helps boost your mindset too. If you have a choice, pick Deb S. & John D., you won’t regret it. Thank you both for all that you guys did for us!